Dialogue from "Nothing Being Everything":
Q: Yes, but awakening is beyond cause and effect...
P: Sorry?
Q: If awakening is beyond cause and effect I think you were saying - beyond cause and effect - no prerequisites ...
P: Well, it reveals that cause and effect is a dreamt idea.
Q: How is it then that seeking can cause it not to happen if you see what I mean? If it's beyond cause and effect, how is it that doing certain things like seeking causes it not to happen?
P: But seeking is being. It is what's happening. All the time there's apparent seeking there is a belief and expectation of apparent cause and effect. So the whole energy of trying to approach something or seeking to find something is the energy of anticipation in time to get that which is timeless and ungettable. But, let's be clear that I am not saying seek or don't seek. I am describing the apparent dilemma for the "seeker" of always functioning in anticipation. The
“problem with the seeker is that they think they are something. "I am something. I am something called a human being. And there is something else called 'enlightenment' which I've got to get." It's another something. But awakening is the realisation that what you've been looking for already is nothing and everything. It isn't a something out there. It's everything. This is it. What you're looking for is being this. It was never lost.
Within being arises apparent cause and effect.
Q: So there's nothing I can do to stop seeking?
P: There is no-one, and trying to stop seeking is seeking to stop seeking! It isn't that there's nothing you can do. There's no-one there. All there is is life. All there is is being. It's not happening to anyone. It's just being. The difficulty is that you think you're a person that has to find something. There's nothing to find. There's nothing to wait for. There's absolutely nothing to know or be aware of. This is it.”
Q: “So how does recognising that make a difference then?”
P: Well, give me a ring when it happens. It's just totally beyond description. You don't recognise it, recognising happens. It's stunning. Sorry about that.
Q:Exactly.
P: What is stunning about it is that it isn't ecstasy, it's not bliss. It's totally indescribable. Apparently it happened to somebody in France at a weekend residential. He swam halfway across a river and it happened and there was a guy swimming next to him, and he realised, "There's no way I can tell that guy what this is." It's absolutely stunning, but what's surprising about it is it's totally ordinary and natural. As seekers, there's a veil between the seeker and timeless being. There's a veil of separation. It's an illusory veil but it's very powerful and we can't see through the veil. What we do is to keep on seeing everything "out there". We don't realise that being is not outside or inside, above or below or before or after.
Q: But does it have a different sort of sensory ...
P: No. No. There's no different sense. What I see, you see. Nothing changes but everything is seen as it is.
Q: The perception is different?
P: The perception is totally, fundamentally different. However, that perception arises within being.”
Excerpt From: Parsons, Tony. “Nothing Being Everything.” iBooks.
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